Sometimes Whipping Dead Horses Works . . .

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I’m not dead yet!

(Version fifteen of the quick list of very, very dead horses)

Introduction

This document has evolved from the barflies use of the phrase “beating a dead horse” to refer to topics discussed repeatedly. We’ve been talking about the 1632 universe since 1999. Despite posts by almost nine hundred people of over 3 gigabytes, more than one hundred seventy thousand messages to the bar on practically every possible subject, occasionally, a well covered subject is “brought back to life” by a new and odd viewpoint. Recent examples include:

Therefore, if you are a relatively new barfly, please do not take this list as a prohibition to discuss these things, but rather, as a challenge. Sometimes, when you whip a dead horse, it gets up and stumbles around. Welcome to the bar!

Rick Boatright

Availability

This FAQ is no longer posted to Baen’s Bar. It just got too long. The editorial board long ago agreed to keep a copy on a web site, and submitted it to the Wayback Machine, so there will ALWAYS be a copy of this available on the web. Multiple versions of 1632.org are available there.

The Short Dead Horse List

First the REALLY short version. All these subjects have been done to death, on about a 3-month cycle since 1999. We’ve been there, Really. (This list is in no particular order. It’s the fastest way to get a feel for just how deeply we’ve discussed this.) If you want, you can skip to the wordier version.

Technology:

  • Stainless Steel
  • Batteries
  • Refrigeration
    • Ammonia based Absorption refrigeration.
      • Coming soon.
    • Propane based compression refrigeration.
      • Coming when refrigeration based propane production starts down-time
    • Peltier junction based solid state refrigeration.
      • Unlikely any time soon
  • Drugs
    • Antibiotics
    • Anesthetics
      • Cocaine
      • Nitrous Oxide
      • Ether
      • Chloral Hydrate
    • Analgesics
      • Opiates
      • laudanum
      • Aspirin
      • Marijuana
  • Clocks
  • Vehicles
    • Boats/ ships
    • railroads
    • Flying Stuff
      • rockets
      • R/C
      • dirigibles
      • blimps
      • balloons
      • Hang Gliders
      • Helicopters (not happening)
      • Auto gyros (Also not happening)
      • airplanes
        • Airplane engines
        • Motorcycle engines
        • Jet engines
        • Pulse jets
  • engines
    • fuels
    • Steam engines
    • Stirling engines
    • Tesla turbines
  • explosives
    • primers
    • guns
      • Big guns
      • Little Guns
      • Odd Guns
      • Air Guns
      • Steam Guns
      • Mortars
      • That other gun you thought of.
      • Yes, that one too
    • things that go boom
    • Other things that go boom
    • Those things that you thought we didn’t discuss that went boom? Them too.
  • Communications
    • Censorship
      • Locking up the books (No.)
      • Silencing up-timers (No.)
      • Keeping foreigners out of the library (No.)
    • Radio
      • The great stone radio tower
      • Spark Gaps
      • The Maunder Minimum
      • cell phones
      • CB’s
      • Radar (Microwave ovens are not Radar.)
    • Morse Code (including radio, wire, and flashing lights)
    • Telephones
    • Telegraphs
    • Semaphores (including maritime flags systems, flag waving, semaphore towers, grid systems &c.)
Information:

  • Navigation
  • computers (They were NOT confiscated.)
  • weaving
    • spinning
  • canning
    • pickling
    • drying
    • preserves
    • seals (wax, lead, rubber etc)
  • laundry
  • cryptography
    • codes
    • ciphers
  • Slide Rules
  • Curta’s
  • Libraries
    • Dewey Decimal vs. LOC
    • Circulating vs non circulating
    • Protecting books (See Censorship)

Customs

  • bathing
  • Sanitation
  • Issues dealing with women’s monthly cycles
  • recycling
  • education
  • land ownership/leases
  • down-time German legal systems
  • Organization of the Army
    • Military academys
    • benefits for vets
  • taxes

People

  • “visitors”
  • hotels
  • the butterfly effect

Materials

  • Sugar Beets (need to be bred.)
  • Maple trees and other tree saps
  • Rubber (Don’t got)
  • coal mining
    • coke
  • oil
    • The oil wells in Mannington
  • zinc
  • Iron
  • Steel
  • Paper (There was plenty)
  • Crochet (Not invented until > 1800!)
  • Cement
  • Town Dump

Warfare

  • Biowar (forbidden)
  • Nukes (forbidden)
  • Poison gas (forbidden)
  • Martial Arts
  • aerial bombardment (See Grantville Gazette 2)

Misc

  • Assassinations (Don’t work)
  • the Ottoman Empire
  • trade with Asia
  • Treasure hunting (we don’t really know where, and see “No Americans to spare.”)
  • weather
  • American Indians
  • environmental salvage
  • the middle ages.
  • and THINGS THAT GO BOOM.